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INTERVIEWWITHGERARD CHRISTOPHER
by Brian McKernan |
Superboy
marked an historic return to live-action television for the Man
of Steel when the show premiered October 3, 1988. It had been more than 30
years since the cameras rolled on "All That Glitters," the last
episode of Adventures
of Superman and like its historic predecessor,
this new show was also a half-hour first-run syndicated action/adventure series
featuring the latest in special effects and a varied assortment of guest stars.
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Was Adventures of Superman
on TV in your home when you were growing
up?
I grew up with Superman and he's a real slice of American culture. When I was a child,
George Reeves was the Superman I saw first. My upbringing was similar to that
of most people; my mother told me I used to put a towel around my neck and jump off
the roof of the garage in our back yard when I was a kid. When I got the role
of Superboy I was pretty numbed by it. It's not like doing any other characters. Roles
come and go, I worked on Melrose Place recently, but Superman is something
that will always linger with me.
Why?
Because Superman is etched into television history. It's a real piece of
American culture. It was a pretty awesome thing to do, to see the
effect this character has on kids - on all people - all over
the world. It was a little bit scary, but also a lot of fun. I got a lot
of participation from fans who sent me the most unbelievable
letters and were incredibly knowledgeable about the history of Superman. They
told me some of the most obscure things that were just amazing. And it turned
into a great experience for me, one that I couldn't have imagined when I started
out. It was pretty daunting, just to fit in some way into the whole mold of
what's been created in the Superman legend. It was amazing - a fantastic
experience.
I imagine that there were certain things that people expected to see - such as flying, which
you did a lot of.
And the reason I did was because of the fan mail. When I read letters the one thing people
wanted to see - hands down - was flying. You could punch anything,
break through walls, use X-ray vision, use heat vision - just as long as
you show flying. Everyone loves it.
I looked to the best
available examples of Superman in preparing for the role. I'd grown up with
George Reeves' series,
of course, and I looked at most of the other live-action versions: the
Salkind movies, the serials with Kirk Alyn, and even the
Superboy pilot
done in 1960 with
John Rockwell, who's
actually a friend of mine. I never even knew he had been an actor until I got
the Superboy series.
Who particularly stands out among the other actors who have portrayed Superman?
Like a lot of people, I have an emotional, sentimental attachment to what George
Reeves did. He just seemed to do Superman the right way, the correct way, the way
Superman is supposed to be done. I also have a lot of respect for the personality
that Christopher Reeve brought to his Superman role. He's a big, tall, handsome
guy and he gave the role a new twist and reawakened it. But in terms of sentimentality
George Reeves is my favorite. I'd have to say I like them both.
So seeing what others had done with your character was part of your research for the role?
Yes, but there's something difficult about that, because you can't do what everyone else
has done. You have to also make the role your own. That was a difficult thing to do
because DC Comics had a very tight hold on us. There were many constraints as to
what that character could and couldn't do. It was sometimes very difficult to have any
kind of an ease about the character. But it was still a lot of fun. The word I get is
that the cast of
Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman is having a bit more fun
and is able to associate loosely on the set. They have more latitude because Warner Brothers,
DC's parent, is overseeing things.
Were you involved with the production of Lois & Clark?
I actually read for the show. It was interesting. At first the casting
director didn't like my interpretation. Then she asked me to change it. I did
and she liked it. Then she brought me in to meet the producers. When I walked
into the room, they had no advance knowledge that I had done Superboy.
Now, there are two ways to look at that: They're either going to love it because
I had done the part before, or the opposite would be true - they'd hate it. I read
for the
producer and his reaction was, "Wow! You're great, it's wonderful, you're
the perfect guy for this!" There was a room of six or eight people, it was
kind of exciting. Then he grabbed my resume, looked at the work I'd done, flipped
it over and said, "You've done this already!" He threw my
resume down on the table and basically threw me out of the room. It was pretty funny.
You have to keep in mind the situation that the Lois & Clark people were in. It's
similar to when a restaurant goes out of business and is taken over by new owners: The
new management wants to change the decor, the menu, the colors, the fabrics on the chairs -
everything. He could have looked at the new show as an easy
transition for me - from Superboy to Superman. I'm older, I'm experienced, and I have
a following. But he was making a big move, a big transition in how the character
would be interpreted. He wanted to go a different way. People like to do things
their own way and often times they cut ties with anything that came before for their
own personal reasons. I'm not making any judgements; if that's what he wants to do
it's his business.
Are there any particular episodes of George Reeves' Adventures of Superman that stick
in your mind?
I like the ones that are mysterious. "Dagger Island," where he was on a deserted
island. And "The Mysterious Cube," where he transmigrates through solid
objects - I
kind of regret that we didn't use that idea on Superboy.
I also like the pilot, "The Unknown People," with the mole men - it's just so weird. It also has Superman
dealing with a worldwide issue, as opposed to just rescuing Lois when she's tied
to some train tracks. It made me think, when I wrote episodes of Superboy, to
created situations that put him in a world arena, not a local one. Here's a guy with
all this power - what would he do if... ?
"Wish for Armageddon," one of the Superboy episodes you wrote, put him in that world
arena, battling a force seeking global destruction. Superboy fills in the gaps
of the Man of Steel's college years with a variety of stories that range from gritty
crime tales to pure science fiction - similar to Adventures of Superman three
decades earlier. "Superboy... Lost" was clearly inspired by Adventures of
Superman's "Panic in the Sky," an episode recently remade again as a
Lois & Clark installment. Superboy seemed to broaden in scope when you
and producer Julia Pistor came on the scene.
I owe my undying gratitude to Ilya Salkind for hiring and believing in me. Julia
came in with fresh ideas and allowed me to make the changes I
wanted to make. When she joined us we started getting some great episodes
- we explored some interesting things and we had a lot of fun. Julia is
a wonderful person and I can't say enough about her. She's very professional and she
did what a producer has to do.
The episode "Paranoia" was dark, yet funny, and guest starred Jack
Larson and Noel Neill. It was very much an homage to Adventures of Superman,
with Larson saying "Jeepers" at one point and making reference to having
worked at a newspaper. What was it like to work with them?
Right off the top, I have to say that Jack and Noel are a great pleasure to work
with, it was really exciting. So many of the people on the Superboy crew
grew up with Adventures of Superman that it was very exciting for everybody. We
were all in awe of them. Noel Neill is great. I felt that she was very appreciative
to be there and that people wanted her. It was nice to work with her, she's a super
lady. Jack Larson is a super guy, I can't say enough about him either. He's been
personally helpful to me, career-wise, and he's an incredibly nice and generous
person. He's got a great sense of humor. Jack kind of looks at the cockeyed side
of life sometimes, and always has a laugh under his voice.
On the set, Jack was nice enough to say he thought our show was superior to his, which
was sweet of him. He also said they never anticipated what a hit Adventures of Superman
would be back when he first got involved in it. He did it on a whim, never realizing that
he'd get socked into it for seven years.
Did Jack Larson and Noel Neill talk about George Reeves?
They put the past in perspective in terms of their lives and careers. They just
seemed to be having a lot of fun, which I was grateful for. That's part of the
deal, having fun when we're working, and Jack added a lot to that.
I did talk to Jack about George Reeves. He recalled what a great guy George was.
Very upbeat. Obviously, that's the word that's around about George to this very day -
what an incredibly generous guy he was. George used to go around putting $100 bills in
other actors' hands and telling them, "Now go make a million!"
Aside from Jack Larson and Noel Neill, who were the most interesting guest stars
you worked with on Superboy?
George Lazenby ("Abandon Earth," "Escape to Earth") was probably
the person I had the most fun with. He's one of the most naturally funny and charming
people you'll ever meet. He has amazing grace and charm.
What did it feel like when Superboy ended its production run?
It was sad. I hate to say it, but when you work that closely with people on the set
it's like you're married to all 110 of them. There was a sense of completion because we
knew and anticipated the end of the show's production schedule. We were able to kind
of set ourselves up for the end psychologically, and do things that we
wanted to do, which was fun. But it was sad. We were all ticking down the days. We
worked almost one continuous year with very few breaks. People feel burned out when they're
working twelve hours a day, and often longer. We'd get all stressed out, but I'd tell
people, "We're all going to miss this, don't forget it." Sure enough, it's all
people talk about now. You wouldn't know it, but the behind-the-scenes aspects of the
show were really nice.
In what way?
The staff and the production value was nice, the quality of the treatment of actors and people -
all of that was of very high quality. There are a lot of personal relationships that
will go on. Professionally it was the most incredible experience for me to work with
a lot of older, famous actors, some wonderful directors, and to learn a lot, get a directing
contract, and to write and end up producing the show. I got the full boat on that show - I
was lucky. It was tough to leave it.
Any closing thoughts?
Just that Adventures of Superman and George Reeves both had a great
effect on me, and on the work I did in The Adventures of Superboy. And
that's important.
I'd say that Adventures of Superman had a great effect on everyone
born since 1951.
Yes, George Reeves portrayed a major, honest hero. And when you think of
what people are watching today! Adventures of Superman was a big
deal. Japanese Emperor Hirohito was a great fan of the show and used to
send letters to George Reeves. It was done at a time in history when America
was at a height. The show kind of
fed all of that, there was so much going on. America was at the pinnacle of
its strength in the world, those were interesting times.
There's honesty in George Reeves' Superman. And strength tempered with humility. It's
fun.
Summer 1994 |
THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERBOY
The Television Series
A more complete version of this interview was originally published in
The Adventures Continue #10, still available.
Special thanks to Jim Nolt.